#SupremeCourt to continue hearing today petitions challenging NEET-UG 2024 exam.
Petitioners completed their arguments yesterday. The bench led by CJI will hear the responses of Union/NTA today.
The hearing will start at 10.30 AM.
Follow this thread for live updates.
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Petitioners completed their arguments yesterday. The bench led by CJI will hear the responses of Union/NTA today.
The hearing will start at 10.30 AM.
Follow this thread for live updates.
#NEET
Here is a recap of the hearings from yesterday :
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CJI : we have received the IIT Delhi Report. The director Prof Banerjee constituted a committee from the dept. of Physics, they say a team of three experts examined the question. They say option 4 is the correct answer
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CJI: option 4 is " statement 1 is correct but statement 2 incorrect." then they say statement 2 is incorrect because atoms of radioactive elements are not stable.
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CJI: the committee has opined clearly that there was only 1 option which is option 4. So NTA was correct in its answer key which was option 4
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SG : I will assist yourlordships on that question aswell
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A counsel raises individual grievance of his reduced ranking
SG: essentially yourlordships are examining whether there was a leakage nationwide or whether there is some incident of theft which has taken place which is our case
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SG: essentially yourlordships are examining whether there was a leakage nationwide or whether there is some incident of theft which has taken place which is our case
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CJI: or as Mr Hooda argued that there are some systemic flaws in the process that the entire exam has to be redone
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CJI: those candidates who may have some individual grievances we may leave it them to move the HC . I don't think the remit of this court is to start looking at individual grievances. We will detag those matters
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Narender Hooda appearing for petitioners
Hooda : here the question paper they got was 20 mins late . They were holding that question paper for first 3 hours and again that paper they were holding for another 3 hours, so all these people were holding the paper for 6 hours the same day
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Hooda : here the question paper they got was 20 mins late . They were holding that question paper for first 3 hours and again that paper they were holding for another 3 hours, so all these people were holding the paper for 6 hours the same day
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Hooda: to attempt the same question paper has again defeated the integrity the examination. Because somebody gets 3hours 20 mins once, these people are getting the 3 hours 20 mins twice over the same day, the question paper remains the same
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CJI: initially gave the wrong Canara bank paper....
Hooda explained that in few centres the question paper was given in different medium of language.
Hooda: two centre- Sawai Madhavpur, Rajasthan and Ghaziabad
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Hooda explained that in few centres the question paper was given in different medium of language.
Hooda: two centre- Sawai Madhavpur, Rajasthan and Ghaziabad
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SG : (For Ghaziabad) there are no pleadings
CJI: when was this detected?
Hooda: in Sawai Madhavput they detected in social media at 2:30. It is their affidavit on record. 2PM the exam started, questions were given, and students raised grievance that this is not my medium. NTA get to know on 4: 30 the same day
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CJI: when was this detected?
Hooda: in Sawai Madhavput they detected in social media at 2:30. It is their affidavit on record. 2PM the exam started, questions were given, and students raised grievance that this is not my medium. NTA get to know on 4: 30 the same day
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Hooda: then they make a decision that we will have another examination same day from 6-9PM
CJI: so what your saying that they held the same question paper but in different medium
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CJI: so what your saying that they held the same question paper but in different medium
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CJI: how many students in Sawai Madhavpur?
Hooda: 120 ...for Ghaziabad they (Union and NTA) is in denial mode
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Hooda: 120 ...for Ghaziabad they (Union and NTA) is in denial mode
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Hooda : they are saying we are live monitoring the exams... in Sawai Madhavpur their systems are not working, they say from social media we got to know after 2.5 hours of examination this is what has happened
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Hooda : so their argument that they have CCTV monitoring is completely destroyed
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SG: they have been able to give 2-5 centre and raised suspicion or apprehension. Even if the suspicion is true is it would be for that particular centre. Ill come to that separately.
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SG : Your lordships are examining an issue where approximately 24 lakhs students are involved. Total centres 4750- this would be relevant figure in examining a pan-India cross Country Impact
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SG: we must satisfy your conscience from stats and figures not through some social media or telegram video. Top 100 students are spread over 95 centre, 56 cities and 18 states and UTs
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SG: the prime test - if I have the paper, then a bulk of people will be topping the test
CJI: do we have any students coming from Hazaribagh...
SG: I'll show you everything. we have done an exercise to see what the position of those centres in 2022, 2023, 2024. Whether there is any mark, jump or rise, that will be the only indication
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CJI: do we have any students coming from Hazaribagh...
SG: I'll show you everything. we have done an exercise to see what the position of those centres in 2022, 2023, 2024. Whether there is any mark, jump or rise, that will be the only indication
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SG : there is a concept called percentile. Young students are unnecessarily getting tensed because of the wrong narrative which is going on.
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SG; the narrative was that for centres like Rajkot more than 30 candidates were qualified. General impression was that if you're qualified you're getting admission in the course of your choice
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SG: there has always been and also for this year, a system of coming to a percentile. Percentile is the figure after we get the result, it (result) is fed into the computer system and we request we want 50% percentile. so it gave us the figure of 164
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SG: so out of 24 lakhs students, 12.5 lakhs will be below 164 and 12.5 lakhs will be above 164. Those above 164 are qualified rest are not, they will not get the admission
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CJI: it is always 50 percentile
SG : yes. Last year the cut of was 137, which indicates (1) this year number of students increased; (2) students were may more hardworking and (3) syllabus was sliced out
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SG : yes. Last year the cut of was 137, which indicates (1) this year number of students increased; (2) students were may more hardworking and (3) syllabus was sliced out
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SG: but 12.5 lakh are qualified, seats are only 1 lakh 8 thousand.
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SG: why this was required? years back in private medical colleges, there were some management quota seats, they used to be filled up by people who weren't even qualified, who got 50 marks or 70 marks, therefore this system was introduced that we will come out with the system of percentile
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SG: Gujarat- Bahvnagar total appeared were 5800, greater or equal to 164 is 4660. Therefore success ration for being declared qualified (not admission) is 80.34%
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SG: it is city wise arranged in a descending order
CJI: how many cities?
SG: 569. we have centres at some other countries also like Dubai, Muscat, Singapore
CJI: Doha, Kuwait etc
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CJI: how many cities?
SG: 569. we have centres at some other countries also like Dubai, Muscat, Singapore
CJI: Doha, Kuwait etc
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SG: i treat them as cities because they have centres. The lowest is Chattisgarh, Narayan Pur with 8.6%
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SG : this is for the limited purpose to show that more number of people getting qualified doesn't mean they are getting admission
CJI: they're just above the cut-off
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CJI: they're just above the cut-off
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SG: kindly allow me put across one point- there are several centres like Kota, Rajkot which are hubs of competitive exams. The word which is being used by the newspapers- 'Factory' is possibly taken from the web series 'Kota Factory'
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SG: Kota in Rajasthan, Rajkot in Gujarat, Nammakal in TN ...seevral centres and hostels, the entire economy is centred on students, there are question papers given everyday, when the child sits for the actual examination actually it is their 200th examination
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SG: whether I am preparing for UPSC or NEET , Ill go stay there and prepare. This has been happening for many years, but still there is no alarming rise since last year. I wanted to say that the example of Sikar, Kota may not assist your lordships to arise at the correct conclusion, they appear sui-generis centres
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SG: what I'll get in Jamnagar Gujarat, some better training is imparted in Kota , or Sikar etc
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SG takes the bench to 'City-wise Success Rate' Table
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CJI: this consists of 56000 govt colleges and 52000 private colleges.
SG: just to give you the feel of the pan-India impact, I have not deducted the reserved seats. Reserved seats success rate would be almost half
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SG: just to give you the feel of the pan-India impact, I have not deducted the reserved seats. Reserved seats success rate would be almost half
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Hooda: one factual clarification, there are 5 other courses the admissions to which happen from the same NEET examination, so the total number of seats are about 3 Lakhs and the rank for admission goes up to 12 Lakhs from the same NEET exam.
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CJI: but the 50 percentile is applied across all courses?
SG : yes
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SG : yes
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SG: Bihar, Patna their success rate is 5.53% this year. But see the earlier years it has remained consistent, 2or 3% plus or minus is everywhere. Additionally it would depend upon the calibre of each batch
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SG: Hazaribagh - this year 4.61% only . Belgavi , it was said that a student shifted to Belgavi because they said there was some huge potential for mass copying - 2.5%
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SG: Im now showing percentile, those who were above 12 Lakhs. Bihar, Patna- 49.22 % were qualified, similarly Jharkhand, Hazaribagh, Punjab etc are not in the highest bracket of 80+
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SG : (giving centre-wise break up) Sikar, Centre - Gurukul International School, total appeared 715, those ranking within first 56000 students is only 101. The success ratio is 14.30% and those ranking within 1 Lakh 8 thousand is 152, and the success rate is 21.16%. If we count the reservation this would be perhaps half.
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SG: Sikar total success rate is 19.22%. Previous year 19.19%
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SG in 2022 it was 24.00%. So it has decreased year by year
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SG : Kota , Lal Bahadur Shastri- 476 appeared. Those ranking within first 56000- 28 and I am not counting the reserved categories. There is no spike, has remained constant within the last few years
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SG: Success ratio is 5.88% and rank within 1.8Lakhs is 52 and success ratio is 10.92%. Success ratio in each of the centre remained almost consistent
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SG: we opened the window for some time,it resulted in more number of candidates getting an opportunity to compete, that does not lead to an inference even remotely of any wrongdoing, But what was not pointed out was that out of the 23 lakhs students those who used the portal to change the centre was only 14000.
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SG: these 14000 students are distributed amongst 4020 centres in 557 cities
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SG: if there was a possibility of one centre of city offering that illegal award, the concentration would be on that one city or cities.
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CJI: when a student applies for any change in centre do you ask for any documentation or reason?
SG: to my knowledge, no
CJI: you can opt for any centre in the Country?
SG: City is the choice, not centre and we respect that choice and we do not sit in appeal whether your request for change is justifiable or not
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SG: to my knowledge, no
CJI: you can opt for any centre in the Country?
SG: City is the choice, not centre and we respect that choice and we do not sit in appeal whether your request for change is justifiable or not
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J Pardiwala : the request came when ?
SG: 18-20 March and 11-12 April
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SG: 18-20 March and 11-12 April
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SG: mere change of city may not lead to any cross country manipulation. therefore we have said that out of the 14000 students, who for their own reasons which we have not examined, sought transfers and were granted, their success rate is only 6. 46 %
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SG: they were transferred throughout the country
CJI: 33 students came to Hazaribagh, 37 came to Patna and 24 came to Godhra
SG: in Godhra no body is getting admission
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CJI: 33 students came to Hazaribagh, 37 came to Patna and 24 came to Godhra
SG: in Godhra no body is getting admission
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CJI: out of 33 in Hazaribagh only 1 candidate scored more than 622, success rate is 3%. Out of 637 candidates who appeared in Patna only 35 scored more than 577 corresponding to 1 Lakh mark that also without reservation otherwise this figure of 35 will come down to 20 roughly
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Hooda : the reference point which they have taken out is sometimes out of 56000, sometimes marks above 622, this will not lead us anywhere whatsoever. Wherever the picture is seen normal they pick up that as the reference point and present this data.
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SG: we taken 56000 and 1.8Lakhs because the petitioners only argued on that basis
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SG: they were given grace marks initially. thereafter re-test was done, from 6 centres.
CJI: these are the candidates who got compensatory amrks for getting the wrong paper?
SG: no they could not get the 3.2 hours, full time
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CJI: these are the candidates who got compensatory amrks for getting the wrong paper?
SG: no they could not get the 3.2 hours, full time
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CJI: why were they did not given full time ?
SG: essentially because of the wrong paper been given initially ...
CJI: they were given either the Canara Bank paper or maybe those with different medium of instruction also
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SG: essentially because of the wrong paper been given initially ...
CJI: they were given either the Canara Bank paper or maybe those with different medium of instruction also
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CJI: when was the re-test held?
SG: 23rd June 2024
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SG: 23rd June 2024
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SG: but nothing but turn on this my lord, why do only 813 appear? suppose I am a student and I got only 2.5 hours and did not complete my paper, I am a Brilliant student (let's suppose). I will not choose to go for a chance of a re-test. The option was either you accept your result given in less time or you perform a re-test.
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SG: so the student was given a choice to accept the results minus the compensatory marks. So student had a choice why would I take a chance and score less in restest or gamble by appearing again.
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SG submitted that a proportionate formula similar to CLAT was applied
SG: same methodology was applied , based on what they scored and the time lost
CJI: everybody did not get same compensatory marks ?
SG: No
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SG: same methodology was applied , based on what they scored and the time lost
CJI: everybody did not get same compensatory marks ?
SG: No
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CJI: what about those who were given the Canara Bank paper ?
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SG: Canara Bank papers were distributed at 12 centres. Out of 12 centres, 4 centres replaced the papers with SBI papers, thus 8 centres question paper from Canara Bank was used.
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CJI: so 3307 candidates were not assessed on the basis of the papers of SBI but Canara Bank , has some moderation been done between the Can Bank and SBI papers?
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SG: report of the expert is that the difficulty level of both the question papers are the same . That is always how the questions are prepared so that one question paper is not difficult than the other
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CJI: what is the success rate for 622 and above?
SG: the cut off mark who's rank is within 1.8 Lakhs is 577 which is 4.6 %
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SG: the cut off mark who's rank is within 1.8 Lakhs is 577 which is 4.6 %
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SG: for Canara Bank and SBI we have the same moderators
CJI: But how where the Canara Bank question papers distributed in the first place?
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CJI: But how where the Canara Bank question papers distributed in the first place?
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SG: city coordinator is authorised by DG NTA in writing . The authorisation letter contains the name, photograph and signature of the city coordinator duly authorised by the DG NTA
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SG Submits that the city coordinator as per the practice goes along with the centre superintendent as well as a neutral observer appointed by the NTA for each centre who is principle or lecturer
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CJI : but are the banks informed in the morning that look we are choosing the SBI option
SG: both banks should be instructed that you give and you do not give
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SG: both banks should be instructed that you give and you do not give
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CJI: because this should be centrally circulated to Can Bank this time that look your paper is to be maintained in safe custody and not to be distributed
SG: and SBI should be told not to give when somebody else comes (apart from the City Coordinator)
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SG: and SBI should be told not to give when somebody else comes (apart from the City Coordinator)
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SG: the system as a whole has worked, except for the human error at 0.3% centre that is 8 out of 4750 centres
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SG shows the sealed question papers of the exam
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SG: from oasis school, between 8:02 to 9:23 AM , we have the CCTV footage etc they open the trunk from behind and distribute it to the solvers. There are 8 solvers , 25 questions each ensuring there are no mobiles
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SG: after the memorising exercise etc they burn the paper, but this piece remained unburned. That was recovered by Bihar Police and there is in the middle one number , this number belonged to a girl who already complained that the paper which I received was resealed
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SG: the paper came in Patna in tranches one came at 10:30 and one at 10:45 AM . They were asked to memorise and then at 12:45 we have the CCTV footage of where there gathered for the purpose of going to that school and they come back to that meeting point again and dispersed to different centres, they were from different centres not from this school.
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SG: School is only used for the purpose of committing theft of the papers.
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NTA representative : this serial number which is written on the half burnt page is a unique number. If 24 lakhs of question papers are printed there will be 24 Lakhs different codes. This serial number goes to Oasis school as for only their record, It cannot go to another centre in the country
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NTA Representative: that how we went to Oasis School asked whom did you issue this paper to ? this paper was given to a genuine candidate. This paper was not stolen, she was not involved in it, because there is no displacement of the paper, it was only photographed
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CJI: and it was put back
NTA: and it wen to a genuine candidate in the normal course. That Candidate found that the seal here (on the leaf side) was broken and open, and here also the sticker. She did not say anything and kept quiet but to us she said this is what was found
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NTA: and it wen to a genuine candidate in the normal course. That Candidate found that the seal here (on the leaf side) was broken and open, and here also the sticker. She did not say anything and kept quiet but to us she said this is what was found
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NTA: This shows tampering. Secondly these pieces (burnt paper) we found in Patna at Learn Boys High School where about 25 candidates were gathered and this solved paper was given
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NTA: the original paper was not taken out, it was put back, but its print out taken out and circulated to the candidates one paper per 2-3 candidates, they sat in a group started memorising
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NTA: then they put them all together and burnt it
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CJI: the genuine candidate was in which centre?
NTA : Hazaribagh Oasis School
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NTA : Hazaribagh Oasis School
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CJI: the paper was otherwise destined for Hazaribagh school , the breach occurred in Patna ?
NTA: no in Oasis School Hazaribagh but relate to Patna
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NTA: no in Oasis School Hazaribagh but relate to Patna
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NTA: Problem solving also took place in Hazaribagh. there were two groups of candidates one beneficiary group in Hazaribagh where the problem solving also took place on another floor of the building. On the first floor girl candidates where there, 2nd floor male candidates and 3rd floor where all the 7-8 solvers with the gang without mobiles
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NTA: after this solution, a digital image was taken and again was transmitted to Patna Learn Boys High School where the other gang members were present
CJI: and you recovered these burnt pieces from ..
NTA: Patna , Learn Boys High School
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CJI: and you recovered these burnt pieces from ..
NTA: Patna , Learn Boys High School
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NTA representative shows a packet of seal question papers to the Bench
NTA: These are 72 question papers, 4-5 packets kept in a trunk. This has got 3 packets of 24 papers each (within the big packet)
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NTA: These are 72 question papers, 4-5 packets kept in a trunk. This has got 3 packets of 24 papers each (within the big packet)
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NTA: On the packet the invigilator and centre superintendent has to sign that when we open there is no tampering. So though there was tampering and burnt from one side and again refixed, they have signed. Because the Centre Superintendent and City Coordinator were also involved in the conspiracy
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Bench: you have arrested this person?
SG: yes arrest, he took money (Centre Superintendent and City Coordinator)
NTA: along with a middle man who was the bridge between the the gang and the two. The conspiracy was hatched almost 2-3 months prior to the actual stealing because they had to also identify one weak centre who is ready accept the money and give access.
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SG: yes arrest, he took money (Centre Superintendent and City Coordinator)
NTA: along with a middle man who was the bridge between the the gang and the two. The conspiracy was hatched almost 2-3 months prior to the actual stealing because they had to also identify one weak centre who is ready accept the money and give access.
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CJI: once they hatched the conspiracy 2-3 months back, how did they confine it to such a small group of people? Human greed is to otherwise maximise the profitability from the conspiracy. Why did they only confine themselves to just 25 people ?
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SG submitted that total figure of candidates was 155
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SG: they do not want to be exposed, they go to the people one-on-one, they fall into the trap, they give post-dated cheques and some amount of advance. We have recovered the post-dated cheques also. Post-dated cheques now cannot be encashed
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CJI: there is no evidence to indicate that this happened widespread?
NTA: no mylord, what we found is that there are 2 locations in Hazaribagh where this was shared after solving and one location in Patna. Within Patna they had a group had a subgroup of 6 female candidates on 4th itself so they didn't want to keep the boys and girls under the same roof, so they kept the 6 girls in the house of an accused
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NTA: no mylord, what we found is that there are 2 locations in Hazaribagh where this was shared after solving and one location in Patna. Within Patna they had a group had a subgroup of 6 female candidates on 4th itself so they didn't want to keep the boys and girls under the same roof, so they kept the 6 girls in the house of an accused
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CJI: what happened to the statements given to EOU in Bihar saying that the leak was on the night May 4, there seems to be an improvement in their subsequent statements where they say leak happened in morning hours of May 5
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CJI: the leak from Hazaribagh to Patna was through one of the pictures clicked and scanned and sent, has that mobile been seized?
NTA: No mylord they have destroyed some of the gadgets and yesterday we received some of them, now we to examine them forensically whether these set of mobiles recovered were from the same gang
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NTA: No mylord they have destroyed some of the gadgets and yesterday we received some of them, now we to examine them forensically whether these set of mobiles recovered were from the same gang
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NTA: whether the same instruments were used has to be ascertained from the FSL Report
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CJI: perhaps the FSL report will tell whether they were sent only to Patna or did it go somewhere else also.
NTA: if the WhatsApp chats are not deleted we will know where else it was gone
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NTA: if the WhatsApp chats are not deleted we will know where else it was gone
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NTA: But apparently from the interrogation they have destroyed those mobiles after the offence, The main core group.
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NTA: the fringe elements the rest of 18 mobiles, their report has come.
CJI: I was reading i didn't flag that page (from the submissions) they have thrown it in the river or something
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CJI: I was reading i didn't flag that page (from the submissions) they have thrown it in the river or something
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J Pardiwala : this is an offence of an immature. Professional would not commit this mistake, he would ensure that the entire paper is burned. You got the first clue (CBI) because of these numbers, these numbers were on the booklet ?
NTA: on the top of the booklet
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NTA: on the top of the booklet
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J Pardiwala : entire booklet was photographed?
NTA: each page, its on CCTV footage he had 1 hour 20 mins , even the OMR sheet and question have the same number they come in the same packet
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NTA: each page, its on CCTV footage he had 1 hour 20 mins , even the OMR sheet and question have the same number they come in the same packet
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CJI: how do we conclusively say that these scanned copies are sent to no other centres other than the ones in Hazaribagh and Patna?
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CJI: do we have the forensic data? the electronic footprint that this was sent to this, that was sent that etc
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SG: that is why I gave the figures, because the time available for them to impart whatever was stolen was hardly 1-2 hours , the beneficiaries also did not fair well
CJI: earlier we thought, after he takes the photographs and comes to the centre at 9:30 AM and 45 minutes were given to the problem solvers. No the problem solvers got the question paper at 8:30 itself
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CJI: earlier we thought, after he takes the photographs and comes to the centre at 9:30 AM and 45 minutes were given to the problem solvers. No the problem solvers got the question paper at 8:30 itself
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NTA: at 9:34 AM he comes out at transmits as per the statements
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SG : the accused got only 2 hours to mugg up the questions is reflected in the result they got
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SG: there are 2 candidates with 581 marks (in the group of beneficiaries )
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SG: these are two conclusions of the report : (1) no evidence is there to show that the solved paper were circulated in any form randomly except the 4 locations mentioned above there is no evidence; (2) the total number of the candidates who were benefited from this stolen paper are around 155
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SG: this is for the purpose of segregation whether the segregation is possible or not
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SG reads from the report stating that the images of the two trunks at the control room of Oasis School at 7:53 AM on May 5 was different from the image of the trunks positioning when the officials had subsequently gone to open the trunks
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SG: this is to satisfy your lordships that the theft had happened between 8:02 to 9:23 AM, that is corroborated by the CCTV Footage.
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SG refers to the decision of the Court in Tanvi Sarwal v. CBSE by the bench of Justice Amitava Roy. In the said decision, the Court cancelled All India Pre-Medical 2015, for 6 lakh students after finding that 44 candidates were beneficiaries of unfair means
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SG: here the investigating agencies came to the conclusion that the paper was leaked and paper travelled through several states
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SG: the question before the Court is that based upon a mere apprehension which is not based upon any concrete evidence, would your lordships consider compelling or rather requiring 23 lakh odd students painting them with the same brush?
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SG: when the investigation has categorically reported before your lordships that we believe that this is at 4 places, that is corroborated by the IIT Report
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SG: their modus operandi is very clear , to select some persons, go to them categorically
J Misra : Is there any forensic evidence that the telegram paper was in the same form and pattern as the paper which was leaked ?
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J Misra : Is there any forensic evidence that the telegram paper was in the same form and pattern as the paper which was leaked ?
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J Misra : any forensic comparison of the two papers was there or not?
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SG : there is none
J Misra : telegram paper photo in your report doesn't match the photo which is the one there in the inquiry report
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J Misra : telegram paper photo in your report doesn't match the photo which is the one there in the inquiry report
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J Misra : not only the font but also as far the numbers are concerned
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SG : after the examination, some student gives it to either uploads himself, with the view to hide his identity he masked the number
J Misra : but whether the font pattern, the structure pattern that has to be forensically tested
SG: Yes my lords
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J Misra : but whether the font pattern, the structure pattern that has to be forensically tested
SG: Yes my lords
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SG: the MCQ Question with the two correct options - there are old books which are available contain wrong answer. But in the NCERT ...
CJI: but your instructions say go by the latest edition
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CJI: but your instructions say go by the latest edition
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SG: in case of dispute both the marks are to be counted
CJI: how can that be possible? here if you look at the two answers, each of the excludes the other.
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CJI: how can that be possible? here if you look at the two answers, each of the excludes the other.
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SG: its a trick question not an ambiguous question Ill say
CJI: see option 2 says - both statement 1 and 2 are correct; option 4 says statement 1 is correct but statement 2 is incorrect, so both cannot co-exist together
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CJI: see option 2 says - both statement 1 and 2 are correct; option 4 says statement 1 is correct but statement 2 is incorrect, so both cannot co-exist together
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CJI: the incorrect answer in the old text book continued until when ?
SG: 2021
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SG: 2021
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CJI: I think we should not go by editions etc, we will go by the correct answer. Suppose the latest NCERT edition has the wrong answer, but the student improvised and prepared well and gave the correct answer ....IIT tells us what is the correct answer! (laughs)
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CJI : yesterday we referred to IIT by your consent
SG: yes I consented your lordship
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SG: yes I consented your lordship
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SG: those who relied upon an authorised text of the NCERT and gave the answer should also not get the disadvantage of the it
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J Misra : the question here is not about rote learning, you have to have the fundamentals clear. So far as the stable atom is concerned it has to be a radioactive element ....being a science student I am a little bit aware of it.
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CJI: and though we gave the director time until 12 PM, before 10 o'clock we had the answer on the table. It would have taken probably 10 seconds to answer the question
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Counsel for the NEET topper who scored 720/720 submitted that not allowing marks for the incorrect answer in the old text book would reduce her scores to 715/720 . Counsel says that in the bulletin there was no whisper of the latest editions to be referred to
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CJI points to the FAQs released post declaration of the NEET results
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CJI: only option 4 is correct , not case where both the options are correct
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CJI: the IIT Report is staring us in the face, assuming we are not setting aside the whole exam, what if we say that option 4 will be the correct answer, but for anybody who answers option 2 there will be no negative marking? Talk the director of NTA
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SG : I think reasonable. But Lordships may ensure that it doesn't become a precedent then for every question there would be a litigation
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SG submits that NTA has filed an affidavit clarifying the allegation of bias by the IIT Madras Director, SG states that the IIT Madras director for this year is an ex-officio member of the governing body of NTA and not in the managing committee which calls the shots
Details can be read here :
livelaw.in
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Details can be read here :
livelaw.in
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Hooda : CBI specifically cautiously uses the word 'so far' we have not gone beyond Patna and Hazaribagh. CBI is not so novice that it will accept the statement of the accused arrested 'so far' ...it is an evolving situation
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Hooda: investigation is going on, can they file an affidavit saying that hence for the there will be no investigation to see whether it has gone beyond ? If today a judgement come and tomorrow this Sanjiv mukhya is arrested along with the mobile showing he had sent it to 200 people in Sikar
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CJI: CBI investgation is going on, we also on one hand cannot say that the leak is confine to Hazaribagh and Patna, equally we cannot say today with any degree of certainty that the leak has gone beyond Hazaribagh and Patna in such a widespread way that it completely effects the sanctity of the exam , that also we cannot say.
CJI: Would the court be justified in saying that on the basis of the hypothesis that some material has gone beyond hazaribagh and Patna and therefore today we cancel the exam
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CJI: Would the court be justified in saying that on the basis of the hypothesis that some material has gone beyond hazaribagh and Patna and therefore today we cancel the exam
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Nedumpara : whenever I want to speak the CJI prevents me from speaking (interjects)
CJI: you pls sit down I am warning you. I will have to have you remove , Mr Hooda is arguing, you have no right to intervene
Nedumpara: I am not intervening, I am leaving
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CJI: you pls sit down I am warning you. I will have to have you remove , Mr Hooda is arguing, you have no right to intervene
Nedumpara: I am not intervening, I am leaving
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CJI: pls call security we will have him removed from the Court, please. You will speak to the gallery, you will listen to me I am in charge of the Courtroom.
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CJI: I am in charge of the procedure of this Court, I have seen the judiciary for the last 24 years, and I will not allow any lawyer to dictate the procedure of this Court . I will give you a full hearing but only after Mr Hooda
Nedumpara : alright, I have been seeing the judiciary since 1979
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Nedumpara : alright, I have been seeing the judiciary since 1979
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Hooda continues his submissions
Hooda: no denying the fact that mobile phones used have not been recovered.
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Hooda: no denying the fact that mobile phones used have not been recovered.
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Hooda : As of today the whole world is watching, the paper has been leaked by a gang, the investigation is happening, mobile phones have not been recovered is there any sanctity left of this examination?
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Hooda : merely figures are being thrown before the Hon'ble Court
SG: we never throw figures, we present figures
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SG: we never throw figures, we present figures
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Hooda: the integrity has actually gone. we cannot reach a conclusion that everybody has been identified rest all are pious
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Hooda: if NEET is a patient it suffers from multiple organ failure and the patient has to go
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Hooda: for Hardyal School today they give 2 page note saying that bother SBI and Canara Bank papers were give. the video on record of the school principal says that not a minutes delay, the canara bank paper was distributed, after 45 mins we got to know that it should be SBI , we contacted NTA they said now time has gone let them attempt Canara Bank
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Hooda: there are no two question papers which can be at power in my opinion.....the average for SBI paper is 164 marks , what is the average of the people who attempted the Canara Bank paper? they have not given this data
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Hooda: there is no parallel, this vitiates integrity
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Hooda : there is no time frame for the sealing of OMR sheet in their SOP which is placed on record.
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Hooda : there is no time frame for the sealing of OMR sheet in their SOP which is placed on record.
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Sr Advocate Sanjay Hegde makes his rejoinder submissions in brief
Nedumpara : I wanted to answer the questions raised by Justice Pardiwala and CJI, as an active member of the discussion anyone could answer the questions, I was treated unfairly, I did not do anything wrong I am sorry
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Nedumpara : I wanted to answer the questions raised by Justice Pardiwala and CJI, as an active member of the discussion anyone could answer the questions, I was treated unfairly, I did not do anything wrong I am sorry
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Nedumpara: I am amazed by the kind of criminal trial going on in the court. I ask a common this question, if the leak has happened there is not alternative than a retest
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Nedumpara: this was the issue of governance, the govt very conveniently did not raise the issue of maintainability of these petitions.
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Nedumpara: this is the issue of the governance, the call of the minister... I am not anti-BJP, I am in support of the BJP , I advocate on voting for BJP but what has happened today? this is unacceptable, the government of the day is accountable to the people
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Nedumpara: the Parliament answer, the session is going on, let the govt answer. These are all administrative issues
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Nedumpara: the only option is to throw the ball back to the govt's court
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Nedumpara: I conclude by saying that I forgive your lordship for all the insult to me and humiliation. I have nothing in my mind, I have the greatest regard of your lordship
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Nedumpara: Justice Pardiwala also I have the greatest of the regard, though I was insulted, I don't have anything in my mind. NEET has to be called in no time
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remaining intervenors make their brief submissions
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The bench has risen for 5 minutes. They will return shortly
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Court resumes
CJI dictates the order : NEET was conducted on May 5 and June 4 results were declared.
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CJI dictates the order : NEET was conducted on May 5 and June 4 results were declared.
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CJI: petitioner sought that the directions should be issued for convening a retest on the ground (1) the question paper was leaked; (2) there are systemic deficiencies in the modalities conducted for the examination
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CJI: 23 lakh 33 thousand candidates appeared for the exam. They are competing for 1.08 Lakh seats of which 56000 seats are in govt hospital, balance 52000 being in private institution
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CJI: the 50 percentile represents the cut of for qualification. The examination consists of 180 question 4 marks each, making total of 720 marks overall, one negative mark assigned for each incorrect answer
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CJI: the NEET 2024 percentile has worked out to 164 out 720 marks. all candidates who obtained at least a threshold of 164 marks are thus qualified for being considered for admission. The seats are allotted for among the General Categories and reserved categories like SC/ST/OBC/EWS etc
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CJI: submission by the petitioners is that the leak which took place in course of the NEET UG Exam is systemic in nature and coupled with the structural deficiencies in the modalities of the exam, the only course of action permissible in view of this course and in the decision of Tanvi Sarwal vs Central Board Of Secondary Education is to direct a re-examination
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CJI: my the interim order dated July 8 2024, while flagging the principle issues in convention, this court had called for a disclosure by NTA, Union and by the CBI.
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CJI: in the earlier order court had noted that it will scrutinize the following (1) whether the alleged breach took place at a systemic level; (2) whether the breach is of the nature that it effects the integrity of the entire exam process; (3) whether it is possible to segregate the beneficiaries of the fraud from the untainted
CJI: Mr Krishna additional director of CBI has appeared before this Court to apprise the Court on the status of the investigation .
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CJI: arguments have been concluded and judgment has been reserved. In the matter like the present it is imperative that the final conclusions of the court be recorded at the present stage since there is an urgent need to provide certainty and finality to a dispute which affects the career of over 2 million students
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CJI : we proceed to record the essential conclusions
(1) the fact that the leak of NEET UG paper 2024 is not in dispute;
(2) post the transfer of the investigation, CBI has filed 6 reports dated 10 July , 17 July, 21 July 2024
(3) Disclosures indicate the investigation is continuing, however CBI indicated the as per the present materials about 155 students drawn from the exam centres at Hazaribagh and Patna appeared to be beneficiaries of the fraud
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(1) the fact that the leak of NEET UG paper 2024 is not in dispute;
(2) post the transfer of the investigation, CBI has filed 6 reports dated 10 July , 17 July, 21 July 2024
(3) Disclosures indicate the investigation is continuing, however CBI indicated the as per the present materials about 155 students drawn from the exam centres at Hazaribagh and Patna appeared to be beneficiaries of the fraud
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CJI: (4) at the present stage there is absence of material on record sufficient to lead to the conclusion that the result of exam was vitiated or there was systemic breach in the sanctity of the exam
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#BREAKING| Supreme Court Finds Lack Of Widespread Data To Vitiate The Sanctity of NEET-UG 2024
CJI: (5) the data produced on record is not indicative of the systemic leak of the question paper which would lead to the destruction of the sanctity of the exam
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CJI: (5) the data produced on record is not indicative of the systemic leak of the question paper which would lead to the destruction of the sanctity of the exam
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CJI: (6) The Court is guided by the well-settled test of possibility of segregating the tainted from untainted. Moreover it is important to clarify that if the investigation reveals the involvement of increased number of beneficiaries, action will be taken against them
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CJI: (7) Court is mindful of the fact that directing a fresh NEET UG would have serious consequences on the 2 million students appearing for the exam including (1) destruction of admission schedule to medical courses; (2) effects on the course of medical education; (3) impact on the availability of medical professionals in future and (4) serious element of disadvantage to marginalised students
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#BREAKING | NO #RENEET : SUPREME COURT
CJI: We Are Of The View That Ordering The Reneet Or Cancelling Of The Entire Neetug 2024 Exam Is Neither Justified On The Application Of The Settled Test Propounded By Decisions Of This Court On The Basis Of The Material On Record
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CJI: We Are Of The View That Ordering The Reneet Or Cancelling Of The Entire Neetug 2024 Exam Is Neither Justified On The Application Of The Settled Test Propounded By Decisions Of This Court On The Basis Of The Material On Record
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CJI ( On the Issue of two correct options for MCQ) : we accept the report of the IIT Delhi. Accordingly, NTA shall revise the result of the NEET UG 2024 on the basis of the option 4 as extracted above is the only correct option
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CJI (on the aspect of retest of 1563 grace marks candidates) : NTA is permitted to the act accordingly following the test which was held.
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CJI: it will be important to clarify that if any student has an individual grievance not bearing on the issues resolved in this judgement, will be open to them to pursue their rights and remedies in accordance with law.
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